RUTH: Welcome to another programme in the series 'Say It Again'. My name is Ruth Lowton. I have Bela with me today. Lee Kee will be unable to be with us for the next few programmes. But I am very glad to be able to welcome Bela. Hello, Bela.

BELA: Hello, Ruth, I'm pleased to be back on 'Say It Again' with you. On each 'Say It Again' programme, there is a true story. Whose story is it today?

RUTH: Today's story is about Dave Pope. He's from England and since he became a Christian several years ago, he'd worked alongside many people. Bela and I hope that you'll stay with us.

RUTH: Do you remember hearing this conversation between Grace and her brother Paul?

Conversation

RUTH: Grace and Paul were talking about making a list. It was Bela and I who thought about making lists. Let me remind you. When you make a list, it can be of anything, say - animals, colours, clothes, or maybe food. A list is a good way of remembering things. There is also a game that can be played to help you remember this. Bela and I will make a list of food. Bela, you say this sentence after me, adding some shopping of your own. 'I need to go shopping to buy some eggs.'

BELA: 'I need to go shopping to buy some eggs and butter.'

RUTH: 'I need to go shopping to buy some eggs, butter and cheese.'

BELA: 'I need to go shopping to buy some eggs, butter, cheese and fruit.'

RUTH: And so the game goes on - each person adding a new item to the list. Don't forget that before the last item on a list, you need the word 'and'. I said, 'and cheese', and Bela said, 'and fruit'.

RUTH: Making lists was just one thing we talked about. Do you remember hearing this? Listen out for how many rolls they bought. Also listen out for how much roast pork they bought.

Conversation

RUTH: So, Bela, did you hear how many rolls Grace and Paul bought?

BELA: Yes Ruth, I think so. They bought two dozen brown rolls and two dozen white rolls. I think a dozen is 12. Am I right?

RUTH: Yes, you are. When we use the word 'dozen', we're talking about 12 items. In this sentence, Grace is saying that the rolls can be bought in packets of 12, or a dozen. Bela, how many rolls did Grace and Paul buy in total?

BELA: If each dozen is 12 and they bought four dozen rolls, that would be 48 rolls. That's a lot of bread!!

RUTH: I think Grace is expecting a lot of people to come to her party. How much roast pork did Paul ask for?

BELA: He asked for one pound of roast pork. 'One pound' is how much roast pork they bought.

RUTH: In English shops, many things are sold and bought by weight. 'One pound' is a measure we use. When I shop, I buy my apples by the pound. I ask my greengrocer for 'a pound of apples please.' I'll say that again. Why don't you repeat it after me with Bela. 'I'll like a pound of apples, please.'

BELA: 'I'll like a pound of apples, please.'

RUTH: We've talked a lot about shopping over these last few programmes. It was Bela and I who practised using the word 'shopping' firstly as a verb. 'You go shopping every day.' Then as a noun, 'Will you buy some shopping?' And then as an adjective, 'That's a long shopping list.' I'll say each of these sentences again. Why don't you say them after me with Bela? 'You go shopping every day.'

BELA: 'You go shopping every day.'

RUTH: That was using the word 'shopping' as a verb. Now let's use 'shopping' as a noun. 'Will you buy me some shopping?'

BELA: 'Will you buy me some shopping?'

RUTH: Now let's use 'shopping' as an adjective. 'That's a long shopping list.'

BELA: 'That's a long shopping list.'

RUTH: In each 'Say it Again' programme, there is always a true story. Today it's the true story of Dave Pope. Dave discovered that in knowing the Lord Jesus Christ as his own personal friend and saviour, he found the real meaning to his life. Dave went on to become a singer and also to encourage many other people into serving the living God. Dave Pope is reading his own true story.

Story Testimony

Music has always played a very important part in my life. At school I was in the choir, and later in my teenage years, I put together a band of my own. I toured the country and visited many places around the world, singing songs about Jesus Christ, and how he became real to me.

But it wasn't always like that. There was a time when I didn't understand that Jesus could make a difference in my life. My parents seemed to spend a lot of time at church, but I wasn't really interested. I was happier playing football with my friends or doing other things, but there were times when I thought about God and really wondered if He existed. I knew that there was something in my life, but even when I visited church with my parents and sang religious songs and read the Bible, I never discovered what I now know to be true.

It wasn't until someone explained to me, in a very simple way, that if I had been the only person in the whole world, Jesus would have died for me. Only then did I realize that Jesus Christ loved me, and that He wanted me to recognize my weakness and failure and ask for forgiveness. That's exactly what I did, and it was as if the Jesus that I'd read about in the Bible suddenly became real to me!

That's when my music changed. I wanted to sing songs about Jesus, and so I began to write new words and music. As I studied at University, I talked to many people about the difference that knowing Jesus makes, and many of my friends became Christians. When I left University, I graduated with a degree in psychology, but I decided to take time out to meet people and share my faith.

The Bible says that God can put a new song in your heart. That's what happened to me. He gave me His music and filled my heart and mouth with His joy. There's no better song to sing than the story of His love and forgiveness.

RUTH: Have you ever realised that you need the Lord? Have you ever wondered how you can find meaning and purpose in your life? Before we finish today's programme, there are three more sentences to practice. Do you remember this conversation between Grace and Paul?

Conversation

RUTH: It's the conversation we heard in the last two 'Say It Again' programmes. On the morning of her birthday, Grace was enjoying lying in bed. It was when she realised there was a lot to do for her party that she said, 'Oh I must get up. We've got to get the food ready.' I have three sentences that we used to practice saying, 'had to', 'got to' and 'must.' I'll say them first, why don't you say them after me with Bela? 'I had to run quickly because it was raining.'

BELA: 'I had to run quickly because it was raining.'

RUTH: 'I have got to get up or I will be late.'

BELA: 'I have got to get up or I will be late.'

RUTH: 'I must open the window, it's very stuffy in here!'

BELA: 'I must open the window, it's very stuffy in here!'

RUTH: I hope you practice these sentences with your friends. It's good to listen to each other and to practice new words. Next week is another in our regular series with Grace. Not the one in our drama! Grace will be visiting a place called 'Nostell Priory.' I do hope you'll join us. But for today, it's goodbye from Bela and me.

BOTH: Goodbye.